The Hub Sneaker Podcast
Welcome to The 12Hub Sneaker Podcast β Where kicks, culture, and convos collide.
Hosted by Hugh Mulzac, Dakari Boddie & Mike Wavs, The 12Hub is more than just another sneaker podcast. Itβs a space where we break down the latest drops, unbox the grails, and talk about what sneakers really mean in the bigger picture β music, identity, hustle, and legacy.
Each week, we tap in with collectors, creatives, entrepreneurs, and everyday heads who keep the culture moving. From wild stories in the resale game to navigating life, family, and business β we keep it real, insightful, and unapologetically rooted in the culture.
The Hub Sneaker Podcast
The 12 Hub Sneaker Podcast Episode 018 | What Is Jeff Staple ROI & B-Ball Shoes & Jeans
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The crew (Drew, Eddie, Kari, and H) is back in the house for a deep dive into the heart of sneaker culture. The conversation kicks off with a debate over the re-release of the iconic Undefeated Jordan 4sβis the hype still there now that everyone has a pair? The guys explore the shoe's military MA-1 flight jacket inspiration before taking a trip down memory lane, discussing the potential return of sneaker packs and whether a $600 price tag would fly today.
The episode then sparks a passionate debate ignited by Jeff Staple's viral video on the "Return on Investment" of creativity. The team clashes over whether long-term brand building can survive in a culture demanding immediate hype and sell-outs. This central discussion touches on cultural relevance, scarcity, and the true impact of collaborators like Staple, Sean Wotherspoon, and J-Tips.
Tune in for a raw, unfiltered conversation covering 90s fashion nostalgia (Starter Jackets and JNCOs), the rise and fall of streetwear brands like Supreme and Ed Hardy, and a final verdict on whether you can really wear basketball shoes with jeans.
Timestamps (Chapters):
0:00 - Intro & The Undefeated Jordan 4 Debate
1:55 - History of the Undefeated 4's Design (MA-1 Flight Jackets)
3:41 - Should Sneaker Packs Make a Comeback?
4:28 - The Modern Cost of Sneaker Packs ($500+)
7:30 - Dream Retro Sneaker Packs
11:25 - Sneaker Nostalgia: First Jordans & Getting Shoes as Kids
13:06 - 90s Fashion Throwback: Pumps, Starter Jackets & Avirex
15:46 - Who Got Us Into Sneakers? Family & Influences
20:26 - Nike's Golden Age of Marketing
22:23 - The Great Debate: Can You Wear Basketball Shoes with Jeans?
27:05 - Streetwear Breakdown: Supreme, Chrome Hearts & Ed Hardy
32:57 - Main Topic: Breaking Down Jeff Staple's 'ROI of Creativity' Video
37:11 - The Debate Begins: Is Staple's View Realistic or Out of Touch?
43:28 - Staple's Cultural Impact: Do His Collabs Still Hold Weight?
51:19 - Scarcity vs. Hype: J-Tips, Saucony, and Creating a Trend
1:07:34 - Final Thoughts on the ROI Debate
1:24:26 - Quick Hits: Doernbecher Releases & Best Skate Shoes
1:29:13 - This Week's Pickups
1:45:22 - Discussing the Former Nike VP / Reseller Son Controversy
1:59:03 - TikTok vs. Instagram: Where is Sneaker Culture More Toxic?
2:02:11 - Jordan vs. LeBron: Comparing Their Best Sneaker Runs (Jordan 7-9 vs. LeBron 7-9).
2:26:26 - What Happened to Urban Necessities?
2:32:04 - Sneaker Personalities: Ben Baller, Sean Wotherspoon & Online Beef
2:48:16 - Outro
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